… they came from strange places. I was talking to Denny briefly yesterday, he stopped by to bring me The Reed Family of Eastern Kentucky books and I went to bed still with the big question of all on my mind. Who was Havila Cook? And why was his daughter Catherine Cook along with Nancy W Reed, given land by Lyles Dolsbury in his Will?
So first thing this morning, I got up and put “Havila Cook” in the Google search and I found this dated Dec 4, 2008 otherwise, I would have missed it entirely. I wish he would have sent email alert just to let me know he posted this but am so thankful… Todd Preston wrote in THE SALYERSVILLE INDEPENDENT NEWSPAPER…
I have dug deep to try to find a response to a query sent by Doris Rose of CA from Shelia Metcalf concerning Martha Hammond b. about 1867, a daughter of Benjamin Hamman. Benjamin was born about 1834 and his wife Mary “Pop” Caudill was born about 1837 and died in 1910. My mother always referred to her as “Aunt Pop”. She was the daughter of Elder Benjamin Caudill and Abigail Pennington.
In the 1900 Magoffin census we find that Mary “Pop” Caudill was the mother of 10 children with 9 living at that time. Martha was the 6th child and her age shows to be 3 in 1870 and 12 in 1880. Martha would have been about age 32 by 1900.
In the Annals of Tazewell Co. VA we find info that Havila Cook and Ursula Reed were joined in holy wedlock on 18 Oct 1838. The 1850 Tazewell Co. census lists Lyles Dolesbury, age 105, with his daughter Catherine age 59. Catherine was the widow of William Reid. Her son Thomas Reid was age 20 at that time. He later married Minerva Adams, daughter of William “Uncle Billy” Adams, town founder of Adamsville, forerunner of Salyersville, KY. Lyles Dolsbury died 2 August 1850. He was a Revolutionary War veteran whose daughter Ursula Reid (b. 1823) married Havila Cook. Havila was born in 1812 and his mother was Betty Cook.
By 1860 this family shows up in Magoffin County. Havila Cook was then age 63 and a widower. His daughter Elizabeth was age 28. Also in the household were Rebecca Jane age 6, John J. age 4 and Havila age 2.
The 1880 Magoffin census has Havila Cook age 73, wife Martha age 47 and grandsons John age 14 and Havila age 12.
Magoffin Marriages shows that Havila Cook married on 8 May 1879 to Martha Colvin at the home of B. F. Adams; also Havila Cook married on 17 Mar 1887 to Martha Reid at the home of Louis Reed.
This doesn’t answer all the questions in the email but we hope it will help to some degree.
I had most of this information but it’s great to get an answer to one of the biggies…
Then Christine IM-ed and said she’d meet us at the Cheesecake Factory tonight at 7:00 p.m. always good to see her. She stays fairly obscure most of the year. LOL
I got an email from Ancestry and a woman name Jacquie Robbins the niece of the late Bernice Phipps, is it a small world or what? I wonder if she has that recipe. LOL
Got pix of the kids in Myrtle Beach enjoying their trip. I’ll try to post some later.
Well, I didn’t get the sign for the yard today; Anthony hates Teds so the sign is out. But, if you do a drive by today… HONK!!!
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April 9, 2009 at 1:44 am
If you ever want to read a reader’s feedback :) , I rate this article for four from five. Decent info, but I have to go to that google to find the missed parts. Thank you, anyway!
April 9, 2009 at 8:46 am
I quoted the entire article that he wrote. What missed parts? There was only one COOK family living in Magoffin in the late 1880’s. The two Harviley “Havila” aka Viley Cook’s are the only known male Cook’s members in Magoffin County at the time. On my Great-Grandmother Margret Cook Reed aka Maggie’s death certificate her husband, my Great Grandfather Grats Reed states that her parents were Vibey Cook and Marth Hammond. There was only one Marth Hammond and one Viley Cook. But Viley married Martha Reed and had numerous children.
Now since Grats was a “Reed” as was the undertaker Robbert Reed – I’m sure they would have known who her parents were. I’ve never found a Reed to argue that point with me. I wish one of the Cook family members could clear this up for us. But so far it remains a mystery.
I personally, had never understood the relationship of Catherine Cook to Lyles A Dolesbury or how his daughter Ershula (her mother) was a “REED” – that married Harviley Cook? or who Catherine Cook’s significant other was; that sired her children. I have looked for their death certificates – but no luck.
But there was a Havila Cook (same age) alive and well living, and in Oregon – long after she states that she is a WIDOW.
I hope that clears this up for you. If you have something to add to this about the family, please don’t hesitate to comment.
April 9, 2009 at 8:51 am
…and “If you ever want to read a reader’s feedback :)” ~ we do but you were caught up, in the spam que due to the part I edited out – before I allowed your comment. You should appreciate the fact that I left your Username and URL in tact. Just keeping it real.
Thanks as always,
Sheila J Metcalf
April 15, 2009 at 11:15 am
After reading this article, I feel that I need more info. Can you share some more resources ?
April 15, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Not really, this is all the info I have on the Cook family from Magoffin County, Kentucky at this time. Grats Reed told the undertaker Robbert Reed that Maggie Cook’s father was (Vibey) Viley Cook and Marth Hammond.
So, I emailed the Magoffin County Historical site to see what they had on the family. Above is the quote from their response, you can check their website for more details.
The only Cook family that lived in Magoffin County at the time was Havila Cook and Martha Reed. Since my Great Grandfather “Grats” was a “Reed”, I’m reasonably sure he knew who his wife’s parents were.
Martha Hammond (only one in the town) was supposed to have married L. C. Wells.
This is all I have. The family is still working on it. We need someone from the Cook side to step up and volunteer the information. Are you a Cook? or a Reed?
Thanks as always,
Sheila J Metcalf
July 28, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Catherine DOLSBURY
Sex: F
Note:
We received a large packet of material from my cousin Frederick L. Reid, Jr. and it contained more info on three unidentified Reed/Reid families in the Reed book: James Reed on page 220, John Dolsbury Reed on page 277, and Thomas S. Reedon page 287. We had established earlier that James and Thomas were brothers and that John Dolsbury Reed was a son of James but there were puzzling questions even after it was discovered they were children of Catherine (Dolsbury) Reed. Who was their father? Some of these questions have been answered.
Catherine was the dau of one Lyles Dolsbury and Ursula Davis. Lyles was a veteran of the Revolutionary War who named in his will Catherine Reed and grandchildren Hiram Hyden, James Reed, Catherine Cook, Thomas Reed and Nancy -?-.
I will summarize the new material we received: Catherine m. 1. -?- Hyden and had at least two sons: Hiram Hyden m. Patience Rudd and migrated to West Liberty, KY and William Taylor Hyden who lived in Indiana, then on to Missouri, and then Arkansas. He wasreferred to as a doctor. He applied for and was received into the Choctaw Indian nation. His application claimed his grandfather Lyles Dolsbury was a full blooded Choctaw Indian!
Catherine then m. 2nd to William Reed/Reid and their known children were (1) James Reed m. in Tazewell Co. VA to Sally Reed. Steve Rudd believes her to be Sally Rudd. James migrated to White Oak in Morgan Co. KY.
Child (2) was Ursula Reed b. 1838 m. Havila Cook. They lived in the Magoffin area and are buried at the mouth of Cripple Creek. Child (3) was Nancy Reed . She m. Edward Rose, a shoemaker b. NC. They with children Thomas b. 1847 and Rebecca J. b. 1849 are listed in the 1860 Tazewell census. Child (4) was Thomas S.Reid who migrated to Magoffin and married Minerva Adams, dau of William “UncleBilly” Adams, son of Stephen Adams and Mary Webb. After Mary’s death Stephen married 2nd to Catherine (Dolsbury) Reed!! In all likelihood she is buried in the Salyersville Christian Church churchyard.
In the 1850 Tazewell Co. VA we find Catherine Reed age 59 (b. 1821), Thomas age 20 (b. 1830) and Lyles Dolsburyage 105 (b. 1745) d. 2 Aug 1850. He was a veteran of the Revolutionary War.
His daughter Catherine married a William Reid according to family members. Thomas Reid, their son, married Manervia Adams, dau of William Billy Adams and Elizabeth Williams. Billy Adams was a son of Stephen Adams and Mary Webb. AfterMary Webbs death, Stephen Adams married Catherine (Dolsbury) Reid.
The 1850Tazewell Co. VA census lists James M. Reed age 27, Sally age 24, John D. age 7, Aronton age 6, Catherine A. age 4, Hiram H. age 3, and William T. age 1. The1860 Magoffin census lists additional children, Thomas S. age 9, Reese B. age 8, James N. age 7, Nancy N. age 5, and Sarah age 2. James married in 1841 to Sarah Rudd b. 1826, dau of Archibald Rudd (b. 1790). Archibald m. in 1822 to Nancy Woosley b. 1809. Archibald was a veteran of the War of 1812 and a son of Archibald Rudd, Sr. and Martha, according to some sources.
Change Date: 22 JUN 2007 at 16:25:56
Father: Lyles DOLSBURY
Mother: Ursula DAVIS
Marriage 1 William REED
Note: _STATMARRIED
Children
James Monroe REED b: 1821 in Va.